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Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

Last post 08-21-2004 21:13 by Soshi Ramoncito. 35 replies.
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  • 07-30-2004 20:54

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

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    Originally, Atsuki was known as Shosuro Furuyari. He took this name upon returning to Rokugan from the Realm of Slaughter through Oblivion's Gate during the War against the Shadow. Note the blue eyes.\r\n\r\nHe assisted the Scorpion Clan during the Spirit Wars, enabling them to make fools out of the Steel Chrysanthemum and his armies. He then became part of the inner circle of Bayushi Yojiro, Scorpion Clan Champion.\r\n\r\nHowever, Atsuki was a former Champion himself, in fact, one of the three Champions responsible for the conspiracy of the Gozoku. During his reign, the Scorpions ruled the shadows, the Crane controlled the courts, and the Phoenix did something useful, or so he said. He earned the allegiance of ambitious young Scorpions who railed at their Clan's newfound success in the Courts, and formed the Shadowed Tower conspiracy, which, among other things, used Maho and assasinations to embarass Yojiro and his allies.\r\n\r\nAfter his identity was uncovered by Bayushi Yojiro, and following the assault on his Shadowed Tower conspiracy's stronghold and the wholesale slaughter of his followers, Atsuki was "killed" by his protege Bayushi Kamnan. He then faked his death, and reassumed his former identity of Bayushi Atsuki. Note that you can't get a good look at his face here, either.\r\n\r\nThe most closely associated personality with Atsuki throughout most of the Four Winds saga was the Crane Courtier, Kakita Munemori, one of the mentors of the Imperial Advisor Doji Tanitsu.\r\n\r\nMy theory is this: Kakita Munemori is merely another identity created by Bayushi Atsuki, who may not even be the former Scorpion Champ. Once a liar, always a liar, in my opinion. Admittedly, this story http://marvin.kset.org/~smi/fictions.php?id=694&search=munemori makes my theory hiccup, but we can all attribute it to Atsuki putting on a show for Kamnan, or even testing the little traitor's mettle.\r\n\r\n
    Shosuro Butei•Courtier•Infiltrator
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  • 07-30-2004 21:19 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

    I'm pretty sure that your conspiracy theory has no grounds. Munemori is most definitely another man besides Atsuki - because Atsuki is much too careful to risk putting himself in harms way.\r\n\r\nThat, and the story you showed as proof was ripped straight from the Diamond Edition rulebook
    Nobody puts baby in the corner.
  • 07-30-2004 22:02 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

    So if he isn't really Bayushi Atsuki... whom is he? Who would profit from single-handedly resurrecting the Gozoku?
  • 07-31-2004 5:05 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

    Or maybe it's the twenty-seventh resurection of Toturi only meant to test his son [:o)] Or worse the 1st Hantei ...\r\n\r\nSeriously, it's an interesting theory but one I won't buy for now
    Scorpion Clan Butcher*Assassin*Ninja*Duelist
    "The Old Man may be dead, but you will not escape our curse. Even in this Empire"
  • 07-31-2004 6:41 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

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    Originally posted by ScorpionKolat
    I'm pretty sure that your conspiracy theory has no grounds. Munemori is most definitely another man besides Atsuki - because Atsuki is much too careful to risk putting himself in harms way.\r\n\r\nThat, and the story you showed as proof was ripped straight from the Diamond Edition rulebook\r\n
    \r\n\r\nI know that that's the DE rulebook story. However, it is the closest Munemori and Atsuki have come to appearing on a fiction together. They have never been depicted as talking together: Munemori's exchanges with Atsuki are always via a Scorpion Lackey (Seiryo or Kamnan). Now if you were (or pretending to be) a Scorpion Ninja Badass whose primary gospel was that Scorps should stay in the Shadows and out of the Court, wouldn't the best place to hide in was in Court, as an accursed Crane?
    Shosuro Butei•Courtier•Infiltrator
    Political Limited: Bow Kurama and discard a card: Kurama sneaks away to lurk on another Clan's forums.
  • 07-31-2004 9:50 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

    Ok, but still, I'm not buying it [:o)]
    Nobody puts baby in the corner.
  • 07-31-2004 13:30 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

    Reading that story anew reminded me of something: where is that Esteban Cornejo ? And which faction does he belongs to ? LAst time I heard from Alhundro Cornejo, he was to be eaten by the lying darkness ... Wait maybe Atsuki is in fact Goju
    Scorpion Clan Butcher*Assassin*Ninja*Duelist
    "The Old Man may be dead, but you will not escape our curse. Even in this Empire"
  • 07-31-2004 15:09 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

    He was last mentioned in the flavor text of Daidoji Tani. The text was "We have found Cornejo, my lord. He is safe."\r\n\r\nThis means that Cornejo has yet to make any impact on the storyline for Diamond, aside from providing the gaijin pepper in the opening story.\r\n\r\nToo bad. I want to see a soul of Alhundro come back, even though that would be broken.
  • 07-31-2004 19:58 In reply to

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    Why are the Crane keeping him safe? What do the Crane stand to gain from him? More gunpowder?Big Smile [:D]
  • 08-01-2004 3:03 In reply to

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    Well, it would explain why somebody who's supposed to be a former Clan Champion, and a Scorpion at that, would go to such extremes just to sabotage his own clan. Which is that, he's really powder blue.\r\n\r\nAnd I have no idea what your Clanmates are doing with Cornejo.
    Shosuro Butei•Courtier•Infiltrator
    Political Limited: Bow Kurama and discard a card: Kurama sneaks away to lurk on another Clan's forums.
  • 08-01-2004 3:37 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

    quote:
    Originally posted by Shosuro Kurama
    Well, it would explain why somebody who's supposed to be a former Clan Champion, and a Scorpion at that, would go to such extremes just to sabotage his own clan. Which is that, he's really powder blue.\r\n\r\nAnd I have no idea what your Clanmates are doing with Cornejo.\r\n
    \r\n\r\nAre you praying Kisada 3 times a day ?
    Scorpion Clan Butcher*Assassin*Ninja*Duelist
    "The Old Man may be dead, but you will not escape our curse. Even in this Empire"
  • 08-01-2004 16:36 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

    quote:
    Originally posted by Shosuro Kurama
    Well, it would explain why somebody who's supposed to be a former Clan Champion, and a Scorpion at that, would go to such extremes just to sabotage his own clan. Which is that, he's really powder blue.\r\n\r\nAnd I have no idea what your Clanmates are doing with Cornejo.\r\n
    \r\n\r\nWhat exactly do you mean by the first paragraph? You man Yojiro? I guess he needed to be killed so that nobody would bother looking for him while he looked for Atsuki. What do you mean by being "powder blue"?\r\n\r\nI don't know what we're doing with Cornejo but the Crane have begun a lot of dealings and plans in just a short amount of time. They will act, but on what, I have no idea.
  • 08-01-2004 19:59 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

    He's not talking about Yojiro - he's talking about Atsuki. Atsuki used to be our champ way back in the day (before Shoju's time) and he's responsible for forming the original Gozoku.\r\n\r\nSo anyway, he's had some ungodly amount of years (900 something?) to study where he went wrong with the Gozoku, and he's trying it again.
    Nobody puts baby in the corner.
  • 08-02-2004 19:45 In reply to

    Conspiracy Theory # 1: Atsuki

    quote:
    Originally posted by ScorpionKolat
    He's not talking about Yojiro - he's talking about Atsuki. Atsuki used to be our champ way back in the day (before Shoju's time) and he's responsible for forming the original Gozoku.\r\n\r\nSo anyway, he's had some ungodly amount of years (900 something?) to study where he went wrong with the Gozoku, and he's trying it again.\r\n
    \r\n\r\nYes, Bayushi Atsuki claims to be the Scorpion Clan Champ from the time of the Gozoku. So after 900 years of thinking about his errors, he realizes that his best plan for taking over again should start by screwing over his own Clan? Right.\r\n\r\nOh, and if the Phoenix Clan Champion was also part of the original Gozoku, doesn't that mean that the Soul of Shiba was in it too? Vis~a~vis, that all subsequent Firechicken Clan Champs also had a lil bit of their Gozoku Champ in them, and woul understandably be in a better position to pln a better plan?
    Shosuro Butei•Courtier•Infiltrator
    Political Limited: Bow Kurama and discard a card: Kurama sneaks away to lurk on another Clan's forums.
  • 08-03-2004 7:38 In reply to

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    The Shiba arm of the Gozoku wasn't the Champion. I believe his official title was Imperial Scribe.
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