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Last post 11-09-2008 14:10 by Retired Master. 9 replies.
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  • 10-30-2008 19:54

    DVD Military

     I have built this with the concept of using the SH to keep honor runners in check and force military (that chooses honor loss) to slow its production enough to give me an edge. Due to work I have not played in a while. This is a way for me to find new interest in the game through a new deck. Please, give me your views!

    Deception's Veil Dojo

    2 Events 

    A New Wall

    In Time of War

    16 Holdings

    Seat of Power

    Temple of the Seekers

    Hidden Dragon Temple

    District Governor

    3x Geisha House

    3x Secluded Village

    3x Famous Bazaar

    2x Rich Coffers

    Shrine to Fukurokujin 

    22 personalities 

    Paneki

    Tsimaru

    Sun Doru

    Utagawa

    Kaukatsu

    Maru

    Kurumi XP

    Hisoka

    2x Kurumi

    3x Uyeda

    3x Eisaku

    3x Yumita

    3x Kuronada

    FATE

    3 Rings

    Ring of Water

    Ring of the Void

    Ring of Fire

    37 Actions

    2x Unshakable

    2x Superior Strategist

    3x Misdirection

    3x Reinforce the Gates

    3x Swift Counterattack

    3x Stay your blade

    3x Coward!

    3x Knowledge

    3x Draw your blade

    3x Hunting the Prophet

    3x Furious Assault

    3x Flanking Action

    3x Two Front War 

    To make long story short, loses to honor monk and quite possibly to spider breeder; but I think I might've managed to shrug off lion and unicorn. I could put in Yasuko to harpoon the honor monks, but I got no answer to the breeder (which loses to the bomb quite easily, I could imagine...)

    Fire away!!!!! 

    "I will be your villain, Hantei. But if you betray me..."

  • 10-31-2008 6:39 In reply to

    Re: DVD Military

    Retired Master:

    Deception's Veil Dojo

    2 Events 

    A New Wall

    In Time of War

    14 Holdings

    Seat of Power

    Temple of the Seekers

    Hidden Dragon Temple

    District Governor

    3x Geisha House

    3x Secluded Village

    3x Famous Bazaar

    2x Rich Coffers

    Shrine to Fukurokujin 

    24 personalities 

    Paneki

    Tsimaru

    Sun Doru

    Utagawa

    Kaukatsu Eisaku XP

    Maru Utemaro

    Kurumi XP

    Hisoka

    2x Ippon 

    2x Kurumi

    3x Uyeda

    3x Eisaku

    3x Yumita

    3x Kuronada

    FATE

    3 Rings

    Ring of Water

    Ring of the Void

    Ring of Fire

    37 Actions

    2x Unshakable

    2x Superior Strategist

    3x Misdirection surprising resistance

    3x Reinforce the Gates

    3x Swift Counterattack

    3x Stay your blade

    3x Coward rout

    3x Knowledge

    3x Draw your blade

    3x Hunting the Prophet

    3x Furious Assault

    3x Flanking Action

    3x Two Front War  One Final March

     

    Ippon could become Hisako... 

    "I will be your villain, Hantei. But if you betray me..."

  • 10-31-2008 7:43 In reply to

    • oldgeorge
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    • Athens,Greece
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    Re: DVD Military

     Well, some comments off the bat: 

    Personality to  gold ratio doesn't seem that streamlined. Lot's of non boxable beef for 14 holdings.

    Fate wise things seem to be a bit more complicated.  Having your traits dilluted in order to use courtiers and ditching the two decent courtier based battle actions (two front + misdirection) , makes  it a questionable decision.  Also, there doesn't seem to be any real actions that warrant the use of sup strat / unshakable, given that everything you play is practically 3x and you have a massive amount of card draw, either add some game swinging toolbox stuff (1x unfamiliar, 1x ordered retreat, etc) or free up some slots for other stuff, most likely some key 1x actions like contemplation and besieged (the latter being super good when you play second and you're in the bussiness of province exchange with mantis follower trains/ponies/etc). Finally, apart from hunting the prophet (which you will be rather hard pressed to play if you don't see a rich coffer or it gets razed) there's not  much in term of capitalising on dishonored people.

    So, why not speed this up a bit (with a few more boxables + suicidal actions like wedge), cram 3xbudoka in there (fat force + cards) and play this out of SSK? Through constant pressure of an honor runner, you will probably cause considerably more damage with the SSK ability rather than hoping to stall him enough without the rest of the dishonor toolset.  Against military, I strongly doubt the DVD action will be of any use, since at best you'll see the 1st dishonored peep by turn 4-5 where the game will already be heading towards a conclusion.  Besides, if the game stalemates with both sides looking at each other with 1 province each, the SSK ability can turn this around.

    And if you are going for shock value with making kuronada pop out of DVD, imagine the look on your opponent's face when he realises you are serious about playing SSK :)

    (and for what it's worth it's probably doubly enjoyable to smash your brother with a gimped box :P)

     

     

     

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    Scorpion Clan Mad Dog (almost retired)
    Lesser (mis)fortune of tounament (dis)organising
  • 10-31-2008 7:56 In reply to

    Re: DVD Military

     I agree with Oldgeorge, my SSK deck is very similar to this one and the ability helps a lot to stop honor runners without conditioning my dinasty (and also doesn't give a chance to my opponent nor allows him to waive honor requirements)

    "When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground." Cersei Lannister
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  • 10-31-2008 9:12 In reply to

    Re: DVD Military

    Tx for the suggestions!

    gold-wise, I need 3 of the 6 3+ gold producing holdings by t4 and I'm set for the game..

    I only need initial courtiers to start playing SH early... I ditch them afterwards and buy the force dudes, that's why I don't have them around to play the courtier based actions, esp, two front war

    the tacticals (sup. str. & unsh.) aren't for toolboxing, just deck thinning if I have tacticians available 

    now the pressure... I plan to get courtier & holding on t2 to start playing SH on their first guy; given that almost EVERYBODY chooses the -3 instead of dishonor, I can have 9 honor points on the honor runner before I even attack with SSK; which is also true against military

    BUT I can save myself the militarily useless courtiers through SSK; I would put in a 3rd Ippon and Yasuko, the Khan, 3x Hisako and Valley of Heroes in the place of the 7 courtiers (for example...)

    unfamiliar ground would pretty much cost me the game! :P

    and SSK has similar effects on my brother anyway! [i.e. -don't need the box] 

    "I will be your villain, Hantei. But if you betray me..."

  • 11-01-2008 23:25 In reply to

    Re: DVD Military

     The deck did reasonably well... still can't do breeder or opponents who bring my Tsimaru first :P. Didn't play Unicorn, yet

    The rings probably have to become Ordered Retreat

    still thinking of switching Ippon to Hisako.... 

    and perhaps Shrine to Fukurokujin for Valley of Heroes 

    "I will be your villain, Hantei. But if you betray me..."

  • 11-05-2008 11:12 In reply to

    Re: DVD Military

    Retired Master:

    Deception's Veil Dojo

    2 Events 

    A New Wall

    In Time of War

    14 15 Holdings

    Western Outpost 

    Seat of Power

    Temple of the Seekers Private Trader

    Hidden Dragon Temple

    District Governor

    3x Geisha House

    3x Secluded Village

    3x Famous Bazaar

    2 3x Rich Coffers

    Shrine to Fukurokujin 

    24 23 personalities 

    Paneki

    Tsimaru

    Sun Doru

    Utagawa

    Kaukatsu Eisaku XP

    Maru Utemaro

    Kurumi XP

    Hisoka

    2x Ippon  Kaukatsu

    2x Kurumi 3x Hisako

    3x Uyeda

    3x Eisaku

    3x Yumita

    3x Kuronada

    FATE

    3 Rings

    Ring of Water

    Ring of the Void

    Ring of Fire 

    3x Ordered Retreat 

    37  Actions

    2x Unshakable

    2x Superior Strategist

    3x Misdirection surprising resistance

    3x Reinforce the Gates

    3x Swift Counterattack

    3x Stay your blade

    3x Coward rout

    3x Knowledge

    3x Draw your blade

    3x Hunting the Prophet

    3x Furious Assault Hired Killer

    3x Flanking Action

    3x Two Front War  One Final March

    In short: Ippon out for Kaukatsu and Western Outpost, the 3 not causing honor loss courtiers (Hisoka and 2x Kurumi) out for Hisako (better force / gold ratio even than Ippon), Rings off for Ordered Retreat and the bow to send home Furious Assault out for HK (Utemaro - Tsimaru - Kaukatsu).

    "I will be your villain, Hantei. But if you betray me..."

  • 11-05-2008 12:58 In reply to

    Re: DVD Military

     Looking better with the changes. Have you thought about Two-Front War ?

    the spirit,soul,body and mind of the shadowed bayushi-all that awaits you in your closet-blessed by the great soturi the 1st
  • 11-05-2008 13:40 In reply to

    Re: DVD Military

     too few courtiers; it was in the initial build.

    come to think of it, I can lose Kurumi XP as well; people always choose dishonor unless I have Uyeda / Kaukatsu out... I'm thinking of Samarhad to replace her 

    EDIT: or, even better perhaps for this build, Maru!!!!! 

    "I will be your villain, Hantei. But if you betray me..."

  • 11-09-2008 14:10 In reply to

    Re: DVD Military

     The boxables are essentially not worth the low value, so I'm trying something different, although the gold's a bit sticky...

    Retired Master:

    Deception's Veil Dojo

    2 Events 

    A New Wall

    In Time of War

    14 Holdings

    Western Outpost 

    Seat of Power

    Private Trader

    Hidden Dragon Temple

    3x Geisha House

    3x Secluded Village

    3 1x Famous Bazaar

    3x Rich Coffers


    24 personalities 

    Paneki

    Tsimaru

    Sun Doru

    Utagawa

    Eisaku XP

    Maru

    Utemaro

    Kurumi XP

    Kaukatsu

    3x Hisako Arashii

    3x Uyeda

    3x Eisaku Iyona

    3x Yumita

    3x Kuronada

    1x Yasuko 

    FATE

    Ring of Water

    3x Ordered Retreat 

    2x Unshakable

    2x Superior Strategist

    3x surprising resistance

    3x Reinforce the Gates

    3x Swift Counterattack

    3x Stay your blade

    3x rout

    3x Knowledge

    3x Draw your blade

    3x Hunting the Prophet

    3x Hired Killer

    3x Flanking Action Doomed Intentions

    3 2x One Final March

    Perhaps I could put in the khan instead of Yasuko...

    "I will be your villain, Hantei. But if you betray me..."

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